After you read this, there is much, much more information on my Full Athlete Guides & Tips Page for playing pro basketball overseas. Check it out when you’re done.
Being that I came from a small college background and never played a second of AAU ball or was ever offered a scholarship, I get a lot of inquiries from players with similar situations as to how they can get their foot in the door of the pros. What follows is a sketch of what, in my opinion, is most important for such individuals to get into the professional ranks. If you agree and/or think this list can/will/did help you, great! Don’t even waste time telling me — get to work. If you disagree with my list, I don’t care.
Make A Fucking Decision.
[“A real decision is measured by the fact that you’ve taken a new action. If there’s no action, you haven’t truly decided.” – Tony Robbins]
I decided sometime late in my college years that I would be playing basketball after I graduated. I was 100% committed, even though I had no idea how or where or when I’d get there. There was no Plan B. A player that sits the bench at Duke or Michigan State for four years will get professional offers from teams just based on the fact that he/she was on the roster at one of those schools, even without expressing interest in playing professionally.
Some of them can actually play, and some can’t — I have seen this with my own eyes. Some take the offers and some don’t. My point, however, is that a player with a ‘D3’ or ‘NAIA’ or whatever else there is out there on their resume will have to go and create their own opportunities to get a contract. I know many players from small schools who say they wanna play overseas, but their commitment is one of convenience. Meaning, if it is made easy enough for them, enough doors are left unlocked and cracked open, they’ll put in the necessary effort. When the going gets tough, their careers end quietly, and, as Porky Pigs says, ‘that’s all folks!’ I had to knock down doors, and in many cases, build my own, to get where I’m at. And I’m still building doors to this day. And, as that Tony Robbins quote says, the true mark of your decision is when you start taking some action. Sending someone (like me) and email saying, “I want to play overseas, can you give me some information?” is NOT taking action. Asking someone to tell you what to do is not an action step. Real action involves the other steps you learn as you read further…
You Need Film.
If you played in college, collect film of every game you played in that you can get. Nowadays, most schools film their games — get the film ASAP! You never know what may happen — you transfer, fall out with the coaching staff, coach gets canned — make an ally in the athletic department and get your film. The person in charge of the video is usually very accessible. Don’t make a big deal about getting your film — coaches can get antsy about a player wanting his film in the middle of the season — quietly collect those tapes/ DVDs and keep them in a safe place. Never let the originals out of your sight. Make copies. Film is your job interview to pro teams — if they haven’t seen you play in person, and you have no film, your only recourse is to attend an exposure camp — for which you pay for travel, hotel, food and exorbitant camp entry fees (not to say that a camp could not be a great investment). When I was graduating in 2004, my school recorded some games but not all of them. My sophomore year coach had all the 2001-2002 games on film — but he gave the originals away to players when he lost his coaching job. I went online and found contact numbers for the teams we played against my last 2 years, and offered to mail self-addressed stamped envelopes to each them to get copies of game film. It’s that important. If you do go to an exposure camp, any one worth its cost offers film now, either streaming online, downloadable, or for purchase via DVD. Whichever format you prefer, get it and keep it.
Work On Your Fucking Game.
The simplest of all these bullet points. Practice. Train. Improve. Get better. I have stressed this over and over on YouTube to the point that you have probably heard me same that statement before in a video, multiple times. Think about Michael Jordan. He is arguably the best basketball player in the history of the universe. Even at the height of his greatness (the entire 1990s), MJ worked on his game. And he was better than me, you, and the person next to you. So if the best player in the world was still working on his game when he was at the top of the mountain, what makes you or anyone else think they don’t need to put the work in to improve (Don’t answer that.)?
Show Your Game.
(Pro Camp & Combines Guide) A lot of players come to me with their highlight films, as if I am a scout, asking for “contacts” — when the people you need to be showing your video are agents and coaches and managers. Having skills in basketball and not being seen is like having a bunch of money in cash locked in your attic or basement. Yes you are rich, but the power of money is in its use and circulation, not the act of possessing it. I’m not telling you that you have to play in every league or game that takes place. But if you are a good player, you want people to know that, right? Then show up where the other good players are and show ’em what you’ve got. Ask around for where the best players are — anyone that lives in a town that plays basketball at all knows where the best games are, whether they themselves play there or if they know better than to embarrass themselves trying. Point is, they know. Soccer players know where other guys play soccer. Lawyers know which bar other legal workers go to get drinks. Basketball players know where the tough games are taking place.
Network.
Sounds simple, but many players don’t do it. There are millions of people in the world who want to play basketball for money; not all of them will. You are not the only one. Ask around — your local gym; coaches you know; players in your weekly pickup games — there’s always somebody that knows somebody. Trust me. If you’re a male, female friends know other guys who play ball. Find out where good players work out or where they play pickup or what leagues they play in the summer. Diffidence or arrogance when it comes to approaching others won’t help you here — the simplest way to make a new friend is a smile and a “hello.”
Nobody Owes You A Damn Thing.
Including me. When it is all over, whatever you accomplish (or don’t accomplish) is credited 100% to you. Not your college coaches, not your girlfriend or teammates, not your agent. No matter what anyone else does or doesn’t do for you, promises and doesn’t come through, ‘hates on’ you, it’s your life and career. I once heard a smart businessperson rhetorically ask, “What’s your IQ?” He wasn’t referring to intelligence — this IQ stands for “I Quit.” What has to happen for you to give up? How far will you go? How much can you take? If you reach out to someone for help and they decline to help you or let you down, is that your excuse for giving up? If you want to make it, you will. If you want to find an excuse, you will. If you need help, start by looking in the mirror. Ask yourself what you’ll do if (and when) no one helps you.
Looking 2 tryout I’m a drop out and look for help 2 getting 2 da league in 19 no high school diploma no ged looking 2 play ball have skills trying get paid 2
Go to an exposure camp. You need a resume and some proof.
My name is Coach Mike Ahrens and I have coached all levels of basketball for nearly 40. My resume includes
6 years of professional level. I plan to host a Top-Notch Free Agent Camp for an Ann Arbor ABA team in the
spring of ’22. This will be a in-depth evaluation that includes, fundamental skills, speed/strength, drill work
that emphasizes listening, 3 v3 and 5 vs 5 with game like conditions including stats. I would like to have a
list of good agents to invite. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Mike Ahrens # 616.550.9733
Hey Mike, congrats on your event. I’d suggest consulting FIBA and Eurobasket’s sites for finding agents.
Wat a coincidence im dre u also dre that means we are friends. By the you have inspired me a lot.Im an18 year old player.Please can you mail me personally because i can’t talk on this forum
Hi my name is Travion Weiss I’m currently 18 years old I’m attending a juco for 2 years how do I make that next jump to go play professional overseas?
Read.
Wuz up dre my name is Tracy Rucker am 6’0 feet tall and I have always played sports in high school I played track and basketball but doing my senior year I injured my knee and all my scholarships went out the window well since then I been keeping myself in shape and I never lost the passion to play my favorite sport I have always wanted to play basketball right now am married with three kids and I would really like if you could give me any advice on what I can do to make my dream come true I hope to here from you.
Tracy, did you read this post?
sir can you take me to be basketball player my high is 1.94
and my fit is 64 kg is it good
my name is max
I am 14 years old
I live in Turkmenistan sir
I have a question, i don’t live in Europe or the US, but after finishing high school, i’m thinking of going to play in Europe, but am i supposed to hire an agent from my country or an agent from Europe. Another problem for me is that in my country high school basketball games are not filmed, and right now i don’t have film of me playing basketball. What am i supposed to do because im an 11th grader right now?
1) If all you’re doing is thinking about playing in the US or Europe, you don’t need to do anything, because thinking requires no action.
2) You finished high school, which means you’re not dumb. My suggestion is to use your brain and come up with some ideas for your what you’re gonna do with your life.
do you have to pay for eurobasket to find an agent
You can go to their site and read to find this out very easily.
Profile: My name is Harrison Eghan. I graduated from Monsignor Scanlan Roman Catholic High School.
I am currently 6foot tall and 5inches as a 18year old. I was nominated MVP (most valuable player) in my basketball tournament in 2017.
My #1 strength: summer of 2017, I was picked as the # One Rebounder in the entire New York State high schools. I will continue to challenge myself with the opportunity to play in college basketball. I will play with perfection as I dream of playing in the NBA one day.
This all sounds great, but you don’t need to sell me on your goals. Good luck.
Hey dre, perhaps u can tell me with your years of experience can I go pro overseas without playing college basketball? I have had the chance to play basketball in the states and experienced the basketball culture and can bring that on the table in my home country but its just that college over here are not built on athletism so it I will have to either continue to play and give everything or quit and find another path in life. I am desperate at the moment because the US embassy refused me a visa to continue my basketball career in the States and don’t know if I should move on in life or keep grinding for my passion
Thank you get back at me !
You don’t need advice. Your question is answered on this website, so read it. Then make decision for your life. Good luck.
I played ball in job Corp for two years I still play my defense is a little better than my offense I’m a catch and shoot type a guy and I’m 29
Dre,
I’m a director of player personnel for a sports agency,and I manage 2 ball players but my only issue is getting the agent to seriously help me finding them a place to play…when I thought I found them a place in Brazil he was all in to get paid but it turned out to be a scam so now I’m back to square one.Until I can get my fiba certification i can’t get him to pull any resources to get them a shot…..Any advice???
1. Get your certification and do it yourself
2. Get better players, or have your players do a better job of showing their skills
Thx…..
Hi Dre,
I am a 24 year old female. I played ball in high school, I graduated in 2011. I received offers from D2/D3 schools but was an immature idiot at the time and didn’t take any of them up. I graduated last year and did not play ball. Is there any shot of playing in the Euro pros with no college ball experience?
Thank you,
K
It is up to you to decide that. Good luck!
Thank you. I should have been more clear. I know that I can do it and am willing to put in the work to do so. My question is, do you know of cases in which a 26/27 year old who did not play in college made a team?
Just saw you have lots of videos on this! Thank you Dre. This site is great!
Great. You’re welcome!!
hi im a girl from the uk how do I get into professional basketball
1. Read.
Hey Dre, I’m 15 and already 6’3 but I don’t know if I’m good enough to join my high school basketball team. It’s summer right now and I want to improve my game,but I don’t have access to a gym. (Hopefully I will soon) I play ball at a park near my house. Is there any drills I can do to help my game that don’t require me to be at a gym. I am very good driving on my right side, but weak on my left side. My ball handles isn’t the greatest, and my speed is average. But I want to improve in the few months I have. Can u help me please.
Get our Ball handling program at HoopHandbook.com/handle you can do it at home without a court.
I’m 14, and i play for my school in Ireland. If i start collecting tape and film from my games, would i get much benefit from posting highlight reels on social media to get exposure or should i pay to go to an exposure camp?
You can do everything you’re talking about and find out for sure. You don’t need anyone’s OK to take action.
I’m 21 and haven’t played since high school and I don’t have film. Would hard training and saving money to pay for exposure camps be my best bet?
Sounds like you have a plan, which is better than doing nothing — IF you actually do it.
hello i live in the UK im in yr 11 and 15 years old i wanna get noticed by scouts how do i do that
Play basketball at a high level. If no scouts have contacted you yet, this means you have not yet achieved this.
Hey Dre, I’m a 6’4 8th grade-expat living in China. I’m not quite sure yet if I’ll be able to go back to the U.S. for at least part of my high school. The best I’ll get here is high school basketball. I’m projected to be at least 6’7 and need some tips. What would you think is the most important thing besides my actually skill? The tapes? Camps? Anything helps and is greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
You’re in 8th grade. None of that is important. Prove yourself on the court and read all of my Help page during your senior year. Good luck!
Thanks man, I really needed that. Keep up the great work and support.
I was trying to buy the course and I finally have money and the website is no longer there.
Dre why the course is no longer there how to go overseas? I was just at the website Dreallday.com/OBB and the website say it no longer there?
it will be on WorkOnYourGameU.com soon. Stay tuned!
Hey Dre, I am a 6’2 athlete from South Africa, I finished High School in the United States playing ball. I am now 19 , and have received offers from D2 schools and NAIA D1. However, these were not full-rides and therefore was unable to go to these schools. Im looking to go Pro in Europe/around the World and as a young athlete I wanted to know what could be done to make this happen?
I have recently Received an offer from a Pro-Team here in South Africa, would it be a good idea to consider this offer?
You need to *read* all the stuff I share here on this site. Then you will need to make decisions for yourself. Good luck!
You need to *read* all the stuff I share here on this site. Then you will need to make decisions for yourself. Good luck!
Hey what’s up Dre, idk how I found you, But I see that as a sign, My name Is DeShawn Grey, I moved to Orlando Florida from Tennessee in February to play semi pro basketball to get exposure. During the process the guy who was the coach wasn’t fulfilling Anything he said to get me down here originally. I found out about the tryout you guys were supposedly holding in September and I’ve been training since April for this tryout and another in Miami for October 12th. I’m going over the site as was going to book a plane ticket for the month of September tryout to see that this was from 2015. I’m devasted right now that I won’t have a opportunity for my chance this year. When is a tryout coming up for any dleague teams for this year? If there is anything I can do please let me know.
Hey, Dre. I am 6’0. I am 26 now, and I got offer from D3 and NAIA D1 schools. Which one I should choose? I wanna make it pro after college.
Good luck deciding. Your game will (or won’t) make you pro, not the school.
hello my name is kgaugelo, I am SA and I want to play basketball in the states so I need help to get there I am 18 years old
Then you’d better get to work helping yourself! Read what I’ve shared here and start taking action. Good luck!
Hey dre I’m 28 I played ball my whole life and I have love for the game am I too old to play for anybody? I really wanna play again
Hi friend! i am a pakistani. i am 15 years old. i just took basketball in my hands 6 months ago. but my improvement in game is much greater. there is nobody sporting me. i can spent all my life on this game. can yo just sporting me. can u just sport me and bring me to any good basketball club abroad. that is my humble request. i ensure u that i will become a best basketball player if you did this for me. please!!!!
That is work you’ll need to do for yourself! Start by improving your skill level. Here are our programs: HoopHandbook.com
hey dre I have just finished my 4th year of college and I was wondering do I have to go to a paid combine to get a contract?
Read everything on my Help page and you can answer that for yourself and your situation.
Not necessarily, but you will have to do something.
Does your tips/encouragements apply to female basketball players also?
Looking 2 tryout I’m a drop out and look for help 2 getting 2 da league in 19 no high school diploma no ged looking 2 play ball have skills trying get paid 2
Go to an exposure camp. You need a resume and some proof.
My name is Coach Mike Ahrens and I have coached all levels of basketball for nearly 40. My resume includes
6 years of professional level. I plan to host a Top-Notch Free Agent Camp for an Ann Arbor ABA team in the
spring of ’22. This will be a in-depth evaluation that includes, fundamental skills, speed/strength, drill work
that emphasizes listening, 3 v3 and 5 vs 5 with game like conditions including stats. I would like to have a
list of good agents to invite. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Mike Ahrens # 616.550.9733
Hey Mike, congrats on your event. I’d suggest consulting FIBA and Eurobasket’s sites for finding agents.
Wat a coincidence im dre u also dre that means we are friends. By the you have inspired me a lot.Im an18 year old player.Please can you mail me personally because i can’t talk on this forum
Hi my name is Travion Weiss I’m currently 18 years old I’m attending a juco for 2 years how do I make that next jump to go play professional overseas?
Read.
Wuz up dre my name is Tracy Rucker am 6’0 feet tall and I have always played sports in high school I played track and basketball but doing my senior year I injured my knee and all my scholarships went out the window well since then I been keeping myself in shape and I never lost the passion to play my favorite sport I have always wanted to play basketball right now am married with three kids and I would really like if you could give me any advice on what I can do to make my dream come true I hope to here from you.
Tracy, did you read this post?
sir can you take me to be basketball player my high is 1.94
and my fit is 64 kg is it good
my name is max
I am 14 years old
I live in Turkmenistan sir
Go to HoopHandbook.com
I have a question, i don’t live in Europe or the US, but after finishing high school, i’m thinking of going to play in Europe, but am i supposed to hire an agent from my country or an agent from Europe. Another problem for me is that in my country high school basketball games are not filmed, and right now i don’t have film of me playing basketball. What am i supposed to do because im an 11th grader right now?
1) If all you’re doing is thinking about playing in the US or Europe, you don’t need to do anything, because thinking requires no action.
2) You finished high school, which means you’re not dumb. My suggestion is to use your brain and come up with some ideas for your what you’re gonna do with your life.
do you have to pay for eurobasket to find an agent
You can go to their site and read to find this out very easily.
Profile: My name is Harrison Eghan. I graduated from Monsignor Scanlan Roman Catholic High School.
I am currently 6foot tall and 5inches as a 18year old. I was nominated MVP (most valuable player) in my basketball tournament in 2017.
My #1 strength: summer of 2017, I was picked as the # One Rebounder in the entire New York State high schools. I will continue to challenge myself with the opportunity to play in college basketball. I will play with perfection as I dream of playing in the NBA one day.
This all sounds great, but you don’t need to sell me on your goals. Good luck.
Hey dre, perhaps u can tell me with your years of experience can I go pro overseas without playing college basketball? I have had the chance to play basketball in the states and experienced the basketball culture and can bring that on the table in my home country but its just that college over here are not built on athletism so it I will have to either continue to play and give everything or quit and find another path in life. I am desperate at the moment because the US embassy refused me a visa to continue my basketball career in the States and don’t know if I should move on in life or keep grinding for my passion
Thank you get back at me !
You don’t need advice. Your question is answered on this website, so read it. Then make decision for your life. Good luck.
I played ball in job Corp for two years I still play my defense is a little better than my offense I’m a catch and shoot type a guy and I’m 29
Dre,
I’m a director of player personnel for a sports agency,and I manage 2 ball players but my only issue is getting the agent to seriously help me finding them a place to play…when I thought I found them a place in Brazil he was all in to get paid but it turned out to be a scam so now I’m back to square one.Until I can get my fiba certification i can’t get him to pull any resources to get them a shot…..Any advice???
1. Get your certification and do it yourself
2. Get better players, or have your players do a better job of showing their skills
Thx…..
Hi Dre,
I am a 24 year old female. I played ball in high school, I graduated in 2011. I received offers from D2/D3 schools but was an immature idiot at the time and didn’t take any of them up. I graduated last year and did not play ball. Is there any shot of playing in the Euro pros with no college ball experience?
Thank you,
K
It is up to you to decide that. Good luck!
Thank you. I should have been more clear. I know that I can do it and am willing to put in the work to do so. My question is, do you know of cases in which a 26/27 year old who did not play in college made a team?
Just saw you have lots of videos on this! Thank you Dre. This site is great!
Great. You’re welcome!!
hi im a girl from the uk how do I get into professional basketball
1. Read.
Hey Dre, I’m 15 and already 6’3 but I don’t know if I’m good enough to join my high school basketball team. It’s summer right now and I want to improve my game,but I don’t have access to a gym. (Hopefully I will soon) I play ball at a park near my house. Is there any drills I can do to help my game that don’t require me to be at a gym. I am very good driving on my right side, but weak on my left side. My ball handles isn’t the greatest, and my speed is average. But I want to improve in the few months I have. Can u help me please.
Get our Ball handling program at HoopHandbook.com/handle you can do it at home without a court.
I’m 14, and i play for my school in Ireland. If i start collecting tape and film from my games, would i get much benefit from posting highlight reels on social media to get exposure or should i pay to go to an exposure camp?
You can do everything you’re talking about and find out for sure. You don’t need anyone’s OK to take action.
I’m 21 and haven’t played since high school and I don’t have film. Would hard training and saving money to pay for exposure camps be my best bet?
Sounds like you have a plan, which is better than doing nothing — IF you actually do it.
hello i live in the UK im in yr 11 and 15 years old i wanna get noticed by scouts how do i do that
Play basketball at a high level. If no scouts have contacted you yet, this means you have not yet achieved this.
Hey Dre, I’m a 6’4 8th grade-expat living in China. I’m not quite sure yet if I’ll be able to go back to the U.S. for at least part of my high school. The best I’ll get here is high school basketball. I’m projected to be at least 6’7 and need some tips. What would you think is the most important thing besides my actually skill? The tapes? Camps? Anything helps and is greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
You’re in 8th grade. None of that is important. Prove yourself on the court and read all of my Help page during your senior year. Good luck!
Thanks man, I really needed that. Keep up the great work and support.
I was trying to buy the course and I finally have money and the website is no longer there.
Dre why the course is no longer there how to go overseas? I was just at the website Dreallday.com/OBB and the website say it no longer there?
it will be on WorkOnYourGameU.com soon. Stay tuned!
Hey Dre, I am a 6’2 athlete from South Africa, I finished High School in the United States playing ball. I am now 19 , and have received offers from D2 schools and NAIA D1. However, these were not full-rides and therefore was unable to go to these schools. Im looking to go Pro in Europe/around the World and as a young athlete I wanted to know what could be done to make this happen?
I have recently Received an offer from a Pro-Team here in South Africa, would it be a good idea to consider this offer?
You need to *read* all the stuff I share here on this site. Then you will need to make decisions for yourself. Good luck!
You need to *read* all the stuff I share here on this site. Then you will need to make decisions for yourself. Good luck!
Hey what’s up Dre, idk how I found you, But I see that as a sign, My name Is DeShawn Grey, I moved to Orlando Florida from Tennessee in February to play semi pro basketball to get exposure. During the process the guy who was the coach wasn’t fulfilling Anything he said to get me down here originally. I found out about the tryout you guys were supposedly holding in September and I’ve been training since April for this tryout and another in Miami for October 12th. I’m going over the site as was going to book a plane ticket for the month of September tryout to see that this was from 2015. I’m devasted right now that I won’t have a opportunity for my chance this year. When is a tryout coming up for any dleague teams for this year? If there is anything I can do please let me know.
Hey, Dre. I am 6’0. I am 26 now, and I got offer from D3 and NAIA D1 schools. Which one I should choose? I wanna make it pro after college.
Good luck deciding. Your game will (or won’t) make you pro, not the school.
hello my name is kgaugelo, I am SA and I want to play basketball in the states so I need help to get there I am 18 years old
Then you’d better get to work helping yourself! Read what I’ve shared here and start taking action. Good luck!
Hey dre I’m 28 I played ball my whole life and I have love for the game am I too old to play for anybody? I really wanna play again
Will, that’s addressed here: https://dreallday.com/what-age-is-too-late-to-make-it-in-basketball-2/
Yo Dre, this website cannot be found.
Thanks, here it is: https://dreallday.com/toolate/
Hi friend! i am a pakistani. i am 15 years old. i just took basketball in my hands 6 months ago. but my improvement in game is much greater. there is nobody sporting me. i can spent all my life on this game. can yo just sporting me. can u just sport me and bring me to any good basketball club abroad. that is my humble request. i ensure u that i will become a best basketball player if you did this for me. please!!!!
That is work you’ll need to do for yourself! Start by improving your skill level. Here are our programs: HoopHandbook.com
hey dre I have just finished my 4th year of college and I was wondering do I have to go to a paid combine to get a contract?
Read everything on my Help page and you can answer that for yourself and your situation.
Not necessarily, but you will have to do something.
Does your tips/encouragements apply to female basketball players also?